Roadmaps - Learning Paths
The courses are not proper in order. Take as example of sharpoint section. I am very much new to sharepoint and i am not able decide in which order i should watch the videos. Also some of the videos are repeated.
I was thinking that maybe you could have a, "Paths to success," feature. It would consist of the materials you already have on the site, but the training courses would be offered in a series based on prerequisites and things that you should know before choosing to head into new territory. So the newb can come in and instead of diving straight into MVC, they could have a actual start point, and a detailed list of instructions on which way to head afterwards, or where you should of been prior to this. It would help because whenever I have to google something for understanding, I get 10,000,000 examples that usually have little to nothing to do with my problems. So if I had a sequence of events I could follow, where you slowly ride a cart on the learning curve, would be nice.
There needs to be a better way to follow a particular path of technology from start to finish. For example, of I wanted to learn all about Apps in SharePoint there are several different courses that I have to jump across or find in order to complete a solid ramp up on this subject
A roadmap to follow on which courses to take (in a proper sequence) to master / specialize in a specific field like sharepoint, sql etc.
It would be nice to be able to filter course based on certification track rather than having to rely on the search utility. There are a lot of courses that satisfy pre-req exam but there are sometimes buried deep in the catalogue, this would be awesome feature...
This new feature will allow the subscriber to select the technology which he/she what to learn and Pluralsight should suggest the learning path which can be taken by the subscriber for getting the best out of the available video.
It would be good , if you guys can provide the flow/direction to learn a new topic.Rather than listing all courses under a section , If you can provide direction where to start and which one to continue.
I have attached a screen grab for your reference.
It would be nice if a simple selection of courses could be bundled into a single section aiming a individual certifications and then of course the courses be in a sensible order.
Although I really love these courses, there really should be roadmap courses. For example, SQL DB creation -> EF -> Repositories -> Creation/Selection/DependencyInjection patterns used to get Repositories -> Web API -> HTTP -> Rest -> Client -> JQuery -> Knockout -> Client Server
I would also add branches for MVC vs Web API and Signal R which is pretty cool. From here, practitioners would benefit from this roadmap rather than having to try and figure it out on their own. :)
I love the vids, TYVM Dave
It's great that you plan to add another 400 courses in 2013. I really like that! But already now, it's sometimes difficult to find the right courses to watch. Maybe you could add kind of a map to each category of courses that describes how the courses relate to each other. Another useful help would be, if the course titles would always clearly state which version of a software they cover eg SQL2008R2 or SQL2012.
I'm never sure where to begin in order to reach specific goals, such as becoming a well rounded web developer using asp.net 4.0 and html5. It would be great if you could create course guides to instruct customers on which courses to take in order to reach those goals. This could also be helpful for people that are trying to get certifications.
I'd like to see you guys post subject-area specific roadmaps for existing and new technologies.
For example, in the "SQL Server" section, Provide a link to a roadmap of upcoming lessons. I want to know (1) that you guys are planning on covering SQL SERVER 2012 and (2) what features/subjects within this domain you'll be targeting and in what order.
It's important for me to know what new content is coming in the areas of my interest - this way, if i don't see content that I would like to see in the roadmap, then I can provide appropriate and directly actionable feedback to you.
Also, I think that if you guys start developing a roadmap, you'll find more effective ways to categorize your content to target the right audience.
Often times, I use the Search box to find a course and then start that course. The problem is that the "Course" page, does not show what node the course is available under. When I go back to the "Full Library" page, it becomes difficult to track down which node the course came from.
My suggestion is to include the course path on the Course page. So for example, a simple path might be shown this way:
Quite obviously, each piece of the above breadcrumb should be "clickable".
This should be a very simple change to implement.
It would be great if you could provide a feature for planning the user learning paths. This is slightly different from "Roadmaps - Learning Paths" feature request that is already proposed as "Roadmaps - Learning Paths" recommend certain "paths". This idea is that the user can pick and choose whatever courses they want or even modules and create their own learning path. The user should be able to see their path, progress, total time required, time already spend and remaining clearly in one place.
In relation to some comments about copying links to Google calendar the user wants to be able to do everything in one place and not in multiple places e.g. Google, Excel spreadsheet as discussed by others. The user should be able to do everything related to my learning path on www.pluralsight.com website.
As a new user, I need a suggested plan to start in each course. For example, if I want to study Business Intelligence, but I am new to this field, I need a suggested courses order to start correctly.
The videos so far I watched are very helpful. Thanks for the hard work your team has done.
I just have a small issue-- being a beginner of specific technology lets say SharePoint, how would I know that out of lets say 15 videos and has 5 videos for Beginner, which one should be my starting point.
It would be very helpful if you can list out the videos like series.
It will be great to see if we can build a study plan where we can add courses in sequence. Later if we want to amend the sequence because we want to change the plan (i.e. because of a new course arrival) we should be able to move the sequence or add any course in between.
This is not like book marks where we can add course always at the bottom and not in between. I have made my plan on a notepad but it will save a little time if I just go to my study plan and follow the sequence by clicking on a link.
For example, I am working on "Introduction to ASP.NET MVC 3" and, not trying to name and shame, but there seems to be a "time skip" between "Controllers in ASP.NET MVC 3", which is the second course and "Razor Views in ASP.NET MVC 3", which is the third. The latter seems to make references to files I haven't even made yet as they weren't in the previous two parts of the overall course but are necessary for the course I am working on. Now I'm not sure if I should soldier on with what I have and try to cover it as best as possible or jump to another video and hope that shows me what I am missing.
You categorize your courses, and that's great. It would be even more helpful (to some of us, anyway) if you provided "suggested tracks." For example, I'm about to deep dive into MVC . . . I've been .NET since its beginning, and structured programming before that . . . no MVC background. Where do I begin? What would be a good course order/progression for someone wanting to learn MVC? Do I begin with the older MVC, or jump right in to MVC3 courses? That type of thing. If there were a "tracks" listing, I could select MVC and get that information.
Just a thought =)
I would love to see in addition to the library list, a list of "Suggested Paths". For example: I have a great interest in learning everything there is about Team Foundation Server, from settings it up to working with it inside Visual Studio, Excel, etc... While I have found several different sections spread out in the library on Team Foundation Server, it would be nice to goto one location for everything PluralSight recommends in order to become a well rounded user of that product and or any other product/language.
Thank you, FYI Love the videos! Trying to get my organization to order a business package for the rest of the developers, wish me luck! -Warren
A sequential numbering in course title will be helpful for me to decide the ordering of courses to learn. For example, there are many courses in SharePoint 2010, as a newbie to SharePoint, knowing what is first and on will give me more clarity on how to progress. Thanks!
I'm assuming that many people have similar goals: certifications, mastery of a given topic, etc. The courses to reach these goals may be over a variety of different topics. Perhaps to be a Win 8 programmer, a basic c# course or two, a Blend course, 2 XAML's a WPF, and finally the new Win 8 courses, as a hypothetical example.
What I would like to see is the ability to add a 'goal' and create a custom course list that would achieve that goal. Maybe these could be made public or private -- public ones could be rated and sorted by popularity, etc. Then new users would be able to select a goal and have a course list showing them how to get there.
one of the reason I did not just jump on PluralSight was because there was not an obvious PATH from where I am at to where I want to be.
If you could tell the site what type of content you want to follow, and then you are fed a recommendation. So, lets say you want to cover C# Development, it tells you where to start and then maybe offers 3-4 courses, with then some optionals taking you into maybe ASP.NET, WPF and WCF. Of course you aren't held to a particular study path, and you can change it when you like and get different recommendations.
For courses that have a several year history on Pluralsight, it would be nice to have a 'recommended pathway'.
Mostly this is about when a later version of a technology supersedes an earlier version of a course.
There is a Silverlight 3 Fundamentals and a Core Silverlight 4.
If I'm mostly interested in current technology, is it worthwhile viewing Silverlight 3? (It looks like some of the content is replaced in Silverlight 4, but some of it isn't.)
It would be great if there are relevant courses suggested for taking before and after certain courses.
Obvious ones such intro to Visual Studio, and then Intro to .NET C#/VB, but even related ones like after an Intro to MVC 3, take Design Patterns to see how you can use unit of work and repository patterns to abstract your data access layer, etc.
Perhaps even if a whole course isn't relevant, point out related sections in other courses in the same manner?
It would also be helpful if it explained why the before and after courses were suggested.
There should be a road map document attached to every course, so some one who is completely relying on pluralsight for knowledge delivery should know where to start.
At the end of course it would be usefull to have a section called where to next, this could summarise what to do next links to resources, projects ideas etc to help the student further their understanding and also consoidate what has been learnt on the course.
A good example is SharePoint - the lectures are listed in alphabetical order, i would prefer natural progression (e.g. SharePoint Basics is probably #1). Maybe the feature is present and i don't see it. Wouldn't be the first time...
We are working on some new features for learning paths, including moving them from the blog to pluralsight.com.
Nathan Bareham commented
Unless I have missed something, it would make sense to have pre-built playlists (i am aware of building own playlist) for the learning paths.
Take the below learning path for example it is not easy to navigate between the whole course as clicking each of the 6 sections takes you to the table of contents for just that mini section.
Which of course works and makes sense but It would be great to have a top level view/playlist that includes all 6 of the sub sections where the entire content/all playlists are together in order on one web page like a large table of contents where you could work through the entire course instead of having to be flicking between the separate pages
having that for similar course like the 70-412 etc would be good
hope that made sense
Ami Schreiber commented
I was just about to send feedback recommending the same thing. Glad to see you guys are working on it.
Tom Kiefer commented
Actual learning path features within the PluralSight website/logged-in experience is a great idea. But -- correct me if I'm wrong -- I don't see that anywhere. So why is this marked as "completed"?
I'm pretty sure that no one asked for the ability to search a separate non-integrated website for learning-path suggestions. We could all post those anywhere if that's what was considered useful. The suggestion was to have such learning-paths as integrated features of the PluralSight UX.
If that's coming and just not done yet, that's cool. (And the blog-posted paths are a nice hint at what's to come in terms of curated paths -- although I hope it doesn't suggest an inability for users to define and share their own.) But don't mark this entry "completed" if it's not. :-(
Jim Somerville commented
I wouldn't call this completed. Agree with the comment below, the "tracks" should be cohesive with each other and integrated into the library.
Cash Foley commented
Learning Paths need to be part of the catalog on the pluralsight website. Scanning through blogs is better than nothing, doesn't really cut it. They aren't integrated and they are historical to a point in time and not to the current content.
Jorge Arzola commented
I've compiled what I think is a learning path to MCSD Certification. By all means this not an official track but it does cover all the subjects that the MCSD track requires.
Plural Sight similar training - Microsoft Certified Solution Developer(MCSD): Web Application
Required Microsoft Exam:
Plural Sight Equivalent Videos in suggested order:
Required Microsoft Exam:
Developing ASP.NET MVC 4 Web Applications (486)
Plural Sight Equivalent Videos in suggested order:
Required Microsoft Exam:
Developing Windows Azure and Web Services (487)
Plural Sight Equivalent Videos in suggested order:
Hope it helps, it sure has helped me. for those looking for a web development track, Enjoy! :-)
I agree with you completely.
Cliff Robbins commented
If you are in the UX mode, check out this really cool tree view that demonstrates key skills with a fun twist. http://www.dungeonsanddevelopers.com/
shaik irfani commented
Can we have a time from which this will be available ?
Hello, I definitely agree that learning paths would be the most important improvement you may create for your website! There are so many great videotutorials available on your website that it is difficult to choose which ones I should start with and which choose later. Especially if there are some general categories I know nothing about (e.g. some particular technologies).
Your website may help really much to become more knowledgable and skilfull in IT industry. However, some of the technologies are more interconnected with each other, some are more popular or come together more often, when it comes to requirements of IT companies, some have better perspectives for future development (their popularity may be increasing in the future). Some general learning paths for some standard positions in IT companies would be helpful. This is not a trivial task to create those learning paths well but for sure it would be very useful improvement for your amazing website!
Alexander Handel commented
That sounds great Keith.
Is it going to be a strict system or are you able to modify the paths?
Jose Marcelo Fascio commented
Wow!! That's a very cool learning path aaron! I liked a lot!! (was a big fan o D&D... lol)
I'd like to contribute with this link as another option, which I find to be very good:
Thanks for sharing!
Consider something really slick like this. This would be a unique way to show users the forks/paths of courses.
REALLY looking forward to this feature as a junior developer / new path I am, overwhelmed.
Mitchell Ross commented
I share this problem too. I expand a topic and just close it back because I'm confused. Even though there's "Beginner" topics it's still not clear on which series I should watch first. It's frustrating. I'm just pointing and clicking hoping the video series will be what I need to get started. It's like opening a book with no Table of Contents or trying to read the dictionary when the words aren't A-Z.
I only do this b/c I am passionate about using PluralSight, it has boosted my career to a new levels, but I feel that with this feature I could do even more faster and it will help boost my career even more... Below is a list of other Feature requests from your own sight that is basically the same as this one, as you can see it is a very desired feature, there are some unique suggestions that could be incorporated very easily with this. Another reason I am writing this is b/c I see you are in the UX Design Phase which is a perfect time for the community of PluralSight to get there voice out hear:
Add "Favorite/Wish List" feature
Sorting Capability in Course List
Need ability to sort your bookmarks
Ability to set Order on the bookmark list
Add ability to tag bookmarks & group by course
Create course groups which make up a certain expertise area
When viewing the table of contents for a course, fill in the bookmark icon if the section is already bookmarked
Create Learning and Development Plans for Business Groups
Manager Recommended Courses for Team Members
Recommended /suggested courses based in usage history
History, bookmarks and progress
A better searching facility
I would like to be able to add a longer note on each of my bookmarks so can later recall better why I bookmarked it and for what purpose
Allow search results to be sorted by Column
Developed personalized curriculums for others
Sort courses by date within its category
Thanks for taking the time to review this.
I came across this on another feedback from PluralSight, thought it was an interesting perspective, I think there issue would be solved as well if you provide features as I have described in this thread...
""Give me an option to hide a course on, I am not interested in entire SharePoint or a android development & many other courses.
Mark as favorite : another feature. Give me an ability to mark a course as favorite.""
I was using the bookmarks to build my personal curriculum and got to 100 and it said "Unable to create Bookmark: You have reached the maximum available number of bookmarks: 100." SERIOUSLY only a hundred... I am thinking no one thought that thru on the limitation as the site grew, you just acquired how many new training videos from the companies you just bought out... As previously stated I would love to be able to re-arrange and categorize these "Bookmarks" or items as well... You guys you check out the Netflix queue interface, and the SharePoint Grouping views, being able to add my own descriptions and metadata around my "Bookmarks" or curriculum list would be great... But seriously capping it at 100... How many videos are on here now? If you need a cap, why not set it to the number of videos on the site...
To my previous statement, the bookmarks get me half-way there but I would like more features around re-arranging the order of the list and categorizing it, such as in Netflix and Amazon Prime. A wish list feature like Amazon books would be a nice to have feature as well, since I am making my wishlist of additional features LOL! ;)~
Would like to see similar queue features like in my Netflix and Amazon prime accounts, would be great to be able to customize my own queue as well as bookmark my favorites and create categories or folders structure around it, within the website itself
Larry Eisenstein commented
Does PluralSight have any kind or timelines for the redesign?